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« Reply #930 on: April 20, 2009, 01:46:00 PM »

Must admit thought the name rang a bell I couldn't think of anything he'd written. It turns out his most famous books are Empire of the Sun, based on his childhood spent growing up in a Japanese prisoner of war camp, and Crash, which was recently turned into a very controversial film. The book was apparently as controversial when it first came out, forty or fifty years ago.
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« Reply #931 on: April 20, 2009, 04:29:29 PM »

Ballard wrote a heap of apocalyptic stories, some made it to novel length. Then there's The Wind from Nowhere.

So no one else at CD is twittering?
I'm at http://twitter.com/geoffnelder

but there's no need to follow. I'm following Stephen Fry, along with over 400,000 others. He's not following me - yet

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« Reply #932 on: April 21, 2009, 02:45:10 PM »

I hear on the radio that Tesco have announced they're making a billion pounds a week. They've recorded the highest ever pre tax profit for a British retailer - can't remember how much it was, but it's a lot. Their mouthpiece was busy talking them up, saying how it was great news for the country, and how they were going to pay so many billion in tax, which was going to help the economy as a whole, but there's a very obvious flipside, I think.

Tesco have undercut highstreet retailers with their buying power, we're told they've driven many farmers into bankruptcy by devaluing their produce, and they're even trying to corner the niche markets and undrcut farm shops by offering their range of 'extra special' foods. Petrol stations are getting fewer and farther between, because they can't compete with the supermarkets.

I don't think these profits are cause for celebration. Look down any high street in the UK and you'll see boarded up shops, and on the roads you see demolished garages, and part of the reason for their failures is Tesco's success.

Will the town centre of the future consist of only two or three rival supermarkets flanked by Starbucks?
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« Reply #933 on: April 21, 2009, 05:38:01 PM »

Sounds like a JG Ballard novel...
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« Reply #934 on: April 21, 2009, 06:02:13 PM »

Ah, Dystopia
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« Reply #935 on: April 21, 2009, 06:08:49 PM »

I've just got home from work, again. Had a relatively early day today - got hom at about 5:30, worked on the house for a couple of hours, had some grub, came on the comp for a while, went back to work on the house, then got called out to an emergency 20 miles away, and now it's suddenly 11pm and I'm knackered
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« Reply #936 on: April 24, 2009, 02:49:48 AM »

Had a couple of very long days myself with work this week and I'm weary, too. Alas, the pressure and stress is ramping up again. I'd love to do something different, but now is not the time, and listening to the news last night about how long the country is forecast to be in the brown stuff it seems like never will be the time. The list of people I know who have been made redundant seems to grow by the day, and so far only one has found new work - a welder, who is now working in a garden centre about 30 miles away from where he lives. Scary times, all round.

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« Reply #937 on: April 25, 2009, 06:35:10 AM »

  Found a book. It’s funny how they come along to fit a mood.

  This one is about the history of horror, up to the early eighties anyway which is a bit of a shame as I would have liked to heard the discussion on later films. But still, there is enough about classics stories and b-movies to pull me in.

  I’m about halfway though. I’ve been hit with advice, revelations and a simple truth. Monsters lurk in our earliest years.

  I’ve revisited the man with x-ray eyes and swear blind that I saw him take his own. Shared a common love for alien and await the rats and other stories.

  There’s a Pound well spent.   
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« Reply #938 on: April 25, 2009, 08:28:47 AM »

Sounds good, Caz. Not Danse Macabre by any chance? That's a great read about the history of horror.

Been a good morning for writing. Reread the 15000 words I'd previously written and abandoned on a story I'd been working on; and was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the pile of crap that I'd believed. In fact, I was quite pleased at how fast a read it was, and how I left the situation hanging at the end of several chapters (alas, not all), and how few errors I picked up. I knocked out 1200 more words, and know exactly where the tale is going.

Off to town now to buy some birthday pressies but already looking forward to writing more later.

Hey, I even submitted a story last night!

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« Reply #939 on: April 25, 2009, 08:41:43 AM »

Simulpost, Del - funny that I started off with the exact same words as you grin

Sounds good, Caz. It's surprising just how many films and stories we regard as new are just reitterations of older works, so even though it stops at the eighties my guess would be that it's going to cover a lot of the same ground as later stuff. That said, I think the 80s and 90s were the golden age of horror films for me, because the FX were that much more realistic than the older films. Which later films would you have liked to have been in the book, Caz?

There have been some great horror films over the past thirty years. Probably my favourite of recent times was Sixth Sense. My all time favourite has got to be The Exorcist, with Jacob's Ladder running a close second.
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« Reply #940 on: April 25, 2009, 02:38:01 PM »

Sounds good, Caz. Not Danse Macabre by any chance? That's a great read about the history of horror.



  The book is Danse Macabre. It could have turned out to be boring, sometimes these history of books are, but with the master at the helm that was never likely to happen.

  The thing with the man with x-ray eyes wasn’t that they didn’t show the eye-gouging scene at the end, that’s my memory playing tricks, but there was this line that wasn’t included because it was too scary, “I can still see.” The film scared the life out off me as it was. That final line, if it had been there, would’ve had me running for the door.

Which later films would you have liked to have been in the book, Caz?



  Terminator is one of the films not in the book which would have made a good talking point. I saw it on first release and had no idea that the android was just that until the words and numbers started scrolling down the screen. I’m not sure if it was an original idea but for me the revelation was unexpected and shocking. It might not make it into a book on horror as the film could be considered sci-fi, but as King says about Alien the spaceship setting is incidental to the horror story and I suppose the same could be said of the time travel aspect of Terminator.   

  A few other films that spring to mind are, Pitch Black, bit of an Aliens rip-off but still good. Aliens itself, a rare breed, a sequel that’s as good as the original. 40 Days of Nights, best Vampire film I’ve seen in years. Gataca, spelling’s wrong for this one I’m sure but it stars Jude Law. An American Werewolf in London and The Others, the latter of which could be described as more ghost story than horror.

  There are many others but sadly too few, as horror movies seem to have lost their way in recent years. I’m no fan of the torture porn that seems to be popular at the moment. I’ve watched a few of them, the first Saw was one of the best, but avoid them now as they appear to be no more than mindless crap.

  The golden age of celluloid horror for me was my teenage years. I watched re-runs of The Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, saw endless creatures crawl out off swamps and lagoons and revelled at the spectacular Star Wars. I also saw the Exorcist for the first and last time.         
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« Reply #941 on: April 25, 2009, 03:12:46 PM »

Well its official
My wife and I are grandparents.
Little Shelby arrived at 730pm last night PST.
She is 6lbs 12oz and about 22 inches long with a healthy head of brown hair--which beats her grandpa here as I came out smoother than a cue ball.
I'll be gone to California for around ten days.
Catch up with everyone later. Though I'll have the laptop for organizing all the pictures we will likely take, I probably won't be on too much.
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« Reply #942 on: April 25, 2009, 03:53:39 PM »

Congratulations!  cheers
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« Reply #943 on: April 25, 2009, 04:23:26 PM »

Nice on Grill! Congrats!!!  cheers

I haven't read Danse Macbre in years, but one of the things that struck me about it was how in the hell King had time to write it.  It's 500 pages of dense writing - none of that dialogue stuff that enables you to write a page in about a dozen words - and it comes hot off the heels of Salems Lot and The Stand and a bunch of other big books. The guy must have been a machine in those days. A top quality machine, too, because those, and others from that period, are the great books.

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« Reply #944 on: April 26, 2009, 03:42:22 AM »

Congratulations, Grill, or should I call you Gramps?  afro Have a good trip.
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