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« Reply #1830 on: June 02, 2010, 07:22:50 PM »

Booked our hols over the past few days. Found it a bit of a minefield this time around. Initially, we wanted to stay at the same place as last time, but they were fully booked for the times we wanted, so I went on a search for a decent Italian villa with a pool, somewhere close to an airport easyjet or ryanair fly to. What a nightmare. I must have looked at hundreds of listings, but the only ones available were those which priced themselves out of the market, or those that are at least a hundred and twenty miles from the nearest airport.

So in the end I went for an hotel apartment, which actually worked out cheaper than a villa and was within thirty miles of the airport, as well as being within reasonable distance of the places we want to visit while we're there. I'd have thought it would be dearer. Go figure.

Strange car hire thing, too. I started out looking at standard car rental companies' prices, and got results in excess of £600 for the two weeks. Then went to a price comparison site and found the same type of car (Renault Megane) for £315 at its cheapest, but I couldn't find all the info I wanted about the various excess waiver things they offered, so I decided to look directly at the rental company's website, where, to my astonishment, they were offering the same car for the same amount of time at over £1,800  scratch WTF? Why? Doesn't make sense to me at all.
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« Reply #1831 on: June 03, 2010, 02:01:31 AM »

This is why I go on holiday to places like Whitby  Wink

(It helps that I don't like the sun, of course.)
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« Reply #1832 on: June 03, 2010, 03:50:20 AM »

As I have a place in Spain friends sometimes need a hire car. I suggest carjet.com. These companies bulk buy from hire companies and get fantastic discounts so they are always cheaper than going direct. When I was here in Jan I needed a car to go to Wales to see my parents. Online £116 pw. Only there was a problem as so many people were crashing on ice there were not many around. Hertz at the airport want £350pw as they knew there was a shortage. I went to a small garage in the end and paid £125. School hols etc the price always goes up.
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« Reply #1833 on: June 03, 2010, 04:08:30 AM »

Last night and this morning I took some time out to read the WiP so far. It was actually a little bit more coherent than I thought it would be. I was starting to think the various plot twists and turns were getting too complex, but so far (touches wood) it seems okay. Lot of work to be done in the rewrite (although that's way off as I'm only about a third of the way through it) especially to make all the characters come alive and to ensure time frames match up and so on.

But two things struck me. Firstly there have been days and weeks where the words have flowed easily, and there have been times when I've had to squeeze them out one at a painful time. I assumed there would be a clear difference in such sections. But there isn't. There's no difference between the two.

Secondly, my writing sucks. When I read professional novels there's always (well, usually) a sense of gloss and of atmosphere and rhythm and beautiful imagery and cool characters and.... well, something that draws me into the world of the novel. Mine just comes across as the work of a struggling amateur hack. Now this isn't to put myself down. I suspect it's quite a lot to do with rewriting and polishing and editing - but most of all I think it's to do with being so close to the story, knowing what's coming, and so on. But it's still rather annoying. I wish there was a way to see one's own work as a reader does without having to put the story away for ten years.

Hey ho. Off to work I go.

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« Reply #1834 on: June 03, 2010, 04:47:42 AM »

I'm sure there's no problem - it's just that you're too close to it, Del, as you suggest. It would be nice to be able to see things as they are without putting them in a drawer for ten years. Trouble is, I think we're stuck with that phenomenon. I keep wondering whether I've lost more than I've gained over the years. I'll sometimes read something I wrote five years ago and think, God, I wish I could write like that now. It's still flawed, but it somehow feels richer. Maybe my perception is just part of the same time lapse problem... or maybe I'm just getting worse instead of better? grin

Thanks for the recommendation of the car hire company, DD. I'm one of those people who likes to torture themselves by continuing to look for better deals even after I've already committed to one, so I checked their prices, and I'm happy to report they're dearer than I paid by a couple hundred. Their excess policy is much clearer and fairer than any I've seen, though. And I expect they specialise in deals to Spain, as they suggest a Spanish resort by default. Next time I go over there I'll try them out. A friend of mine has just emigrated over there, and keeps inviting me over, so I expect I'll make the effort sometime soon.
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« Reply #1835 on: June 03, 2010, 07:37:12 AM »

I was offering creative writing weeks. I have a 7 bed farmhouse in 50 acres and the whole area just exudes atmosphere. I still need to tweek a couple of the rooms and get the drive sorted. I found I could just lie and the ground in the sun and ideas would come to me.
www.cortijodelzorro.co.uk
accommmodation page has photos of views etc.
There are plenty of area where you can feel inspiration. One night I parked up in cheddar gorge with the sun roof open and wrote a chilling demonic scene.
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« Reply #1836 on: June 03, 2010, 08:52:18 AM »

Hey, DD, your place looks really nice! The one photo showing the rolling hills and what I presume is your place (small white rectangle in the middle; center photo, top row on Accomodation [sic] page) makes it look like it wouldn't matter if you had 5 acres, 50, 500, or 5000--you've got the same view regardless. Wonderful!

You might want to change "on suite" to "en suite," though. They're pronounced the same (hence the common error), but the latter is correct.

Also, if I were a prospective client of Exciting Books, I'd be leery of someone offering editing services with this sentence starting the second paragraph:

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« Reply #1837 on: June 04, 2010, 04:13:50 AM »

You can only get people to proof read if you pay them and most english people who live near me in spain are illiterate. I have at last got around to correcting accomodation, but my last post spelt it accommmodation anyway.
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« Reply #1838 on: June 04, 2010, 04:49:03 AM »

It's still wrong, dd. The word is accommodation. (two cs, two ms).  Wink
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« Reply #1839 on: June 04, 2010, 08:15:37 AM »

I'm actually doing both things I intended to do the other day, today: writing AND absorbing the sunshine.  I'm making the most of my day off because tomorrow we're having a Tiki Fun Day at work and it'll likely be MENTAL.  grin Cheesy
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« Reply #1840 on: June 04, 2010, 08:32:29 AM »

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what is a Tiki Fun Day? Just in case I ever get invited to one.
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« Reply #1841 on: June 04, 2010, 08:42:55 AM »

No, it was accomodation, now it is accommodation. Honest. I knew it was wrong ages ago, just didn't get around to changing it. Anyway it proves people looked at the site, because if they can spell they often noticed it.
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« Reply #1842 on: June 04, 2010, 09:23:04 AM »

When I look at this page, the menu on the left still has the wrong spelling http://www.cortijodelzorro.co.uk/. Honest! And I've refreshed the page several times, so it's not my pc refusing to acknowledge changes.
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« Reply #1843 on: June 04, 2010, 11:36:03 AM »

DD  I love that area of spain. At UKAuthors.com we are always looking for a Mediterranean venue for the UKAway week for a writers 'holiday'. We've been to Greece, Northern Cyprus, Southern Cyprus and this year we couldn't find anywhere in budget so we're going to Wales. I'll log your information with next year in mind )

Del. because of the too-close problem with novels in particular, I belong to the BSFA critique group. There are others for horror and fantasy out there.

Del and I are meeting up during my cycle tour Chester to Cheltenham and back next week. If any other CDer lives along the Welsh Marches, Herefordshire or North Gloucestershire I could call for a chat. You'd be chatting and me listening while I get my breath back.

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« Reply #1844 on: June 04, 2010, 01:45:51 PM »

Lovely day today, and where am I? Stuck inside the gutted shell of an old army barracks blocking up doorways, that's where. There is no justice. pissed
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