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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4620 on: December 19, 2014, 05:45:18 PM »
A few years ago AK asked me to help him track down a hacker in his critique forum. Like you and Ed say his manner is brusque and I couldn't agree with some of his methods of smiting newbie writers as his critique was more destructive than constructive but it was kind of like you were stronger if you survived. A fundamental difference between him and Neil Marr's approach. I found his hacker, who was arrested by the FBI for similar hacking elsewhere although the prosecution was only really successful on a tax evasion angle!

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4621 on: December 20, 2014, 03:37:32 AM »
Neil was a lovely bloke, sweet as pie, but his approach often did my head in. He would agree and be absolutely charming about anything you said. Then he'd do something entirely different, and ultimately, through his lack of judgement, he lost me hundreds of pounds of royalties which I'll never retrieve. With AK, at least you know exactly where you stand all the time, and I really value that. Also, underneath all that brusqueness and exceedingly dry sense of humour, he's a genuinely nice bloke, kind and generous to a fault - and I realise people who've left Bootcamp in a huff won't have seen that side of him, but I've been there for two years and that's been my experience. It's a good place to be if you're serious about improving your craft. Its writers (including people like Vanessa Gebbie, Monica Ali, AK himself, etc) have produced AT LEAST 40 mainstream books plus well over 150 first prizes in literary competitions. For people for whom his methods work, they REALLY work. My 'hit' rate has certainly gone up since I've been applying his methods.

But yes, when you get SUCH a strong personality, there are bound to be clashes, so Ed's view of AK is pretty much matched by AK's view of Ed  :2funny:


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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4622 on: December 20, 2014, 04:34:34 AM »
But enough of all that. It's Christmas! Here's a cat being abducted by aliens https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=945352788823612&fref=nf

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4623 on: December 25, 2014, 12:53:52 PM »
Merry Christmas Doomers  :santa_grin:
Planning is an unnatural process - it is much more fun to do something.  The nicest thing about not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise, rather than being preceded by a period of worry and depression. [Sir John Harvey-Jones]

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4624 on: December 26, 2014, 02:01:10 PM »
Merry Christmas, Ed.  :afro:
Jerry Enni lives in a small house in the center of the San Joaquin Valley with his beautiful family. By day he makes signs and by night he writes stories. To learn more about him, check out Clear Perspective, Blurry Lens

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4625 on: December 27, 2014, 03:42:17 AM »
Merry Christmas all, and a Happy New Year.

Gorgeous sunny morning here. No snow, not even any frost. Feels springlike. First bulbs are already poking through, while the last asters are still flowering.

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4626 on: December 30, 2014, 11:24:42 AM »
Bbbrrrrrrr :shocked: back from Egypt this morning. Tad cold here for my liking. Had a very enjoyable Christmas in the sun (28C and sunny all day every day -- lovely). Hope you all had a good one, too. Not doing anything I know of for New Year, but something may crop up yet :afro:
Planning is an unnatural process - it is much more fun to do something.  The nicest thing about not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise, rather than being preceded by a period of worry and depression. [Sir John Harvey-Jones]

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4627 on: December 31, 2014, 04:38:52 PM »
Wife and I have been on a hectic family rush around centred on an icy, snowy Peak District. Pretty but dangerous - just as I like it :) Glad to be home though and have a bash at some more stories.

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all Doomers.

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4628 on: December 31, 2014, 06:25:18 PM »
Happy New Year!  :cheers:
Jerry Enni lives in a small house in the center of the San Joaquin Valley with his beautiful family. By day he makes signs and by night he writes stories. To learn more about him, check out Clear Perspective, Blurry Lens

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4629 on: January 01, 2015, 04:42:20 AM »
Happy New Year! My brother and his wife have also been doing the Peak District, and the photos look delightful. Was clearly the place to be.

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4630 on: January 01, 2015, 07:14:54 AM »
Happy New Year everybody :cheers:

I hope you all have a great 2015.
Planning is an unnatural process - it is much more fun to do something.  The nicest thing about not planning is that failure comes as a complete surprise, rather than being preceded by a period of worry and depression. [Sir John Harvey-Jones]

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4631 on: January 02, 2015, 08:49:52 AM »
Happy New Year everyone! Had a very quiet Xmas and a storming gig New Year's Eve. Haven't eaten or drinken much at all this festive season so I need to catch up  :cool:
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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4632 on: January 08, 2015, 04:06:38 PM »
On a roll for getting my stories into horror anthos.
I think my Zen Buddhist monk punk story was critted here on Cafe Doom. That was published last year or the year before but along with another horror story of mine about a Sufi Pirate, it's been republished in an omnibus edition edited by Aaron French. I think two other Doomers are in this too and I've put the TOC on my blog here
https://geoffnelder.wordpress.com/2015/01/07/dont-bite-my-finger/

Let the 2015 good horror times roll.

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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4633 on: January 09, 2015, 03:17:52 AM »
Nice one Geoff :afro:
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Re: The good morning, good night thread
« Reply #4634 on: January 11, 2015, 02:02:29 PM »
This time last year my new resolution was around writing - I probably wrote 100 000 words last year but I never finished anything and I never sent anything off. I must try and get a few shorts finished this year, or maybe another western.

Meanwhile, I have written something.... a song. It's about the fact that although I'm not one of those people who dance easily through life maybe I haven't done too badly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoI6b0gQlL0&list=UUC8q8eaAqXe29NM0-knBCpA

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