Incredible opposition

[Walker]

I'm amazed at the opposition I'm recieving when I tell people about this website..... 
     
--->  http://www.bblc.tv/

It's been a really frustrating experience trying to educate people who want to remain sheep and follow blindly anyone who will hold their hand so they don't stumble along the way. The problem is that they stumble because their eyes are closed and they're afraid to open them. In the meantime, all of our rights and freedoms are being stripped from us with false promises and lies. Recent violent acts have secured the government's ability to become more opaque all the time, while we, the people, become more and more transparent-- I think it's called the patriot act. This is the opposite of what is supposed to happen, and contrary to human evolution. This is devolution at it's finest.
As much as I hate to say it, I look forward to 2012 (http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/link.htm) with the hope that *something* will stop the avalanche of evil that is taking over right under our own noses.
I'm aware that this all sounds a little crazy, or maybe just ominous, but the past week has been a very eye opening time for me. I'm not a 'conspiracy guy', but I'm not blind either. More and more every day I long for a just gov't that will protect us instead of exploiting us. We're headed for a world gov't with a world army that will supress anyone who opposes them. The powers that be call it 'globalization'. Who would a global army fight if there is no other army? Anyone who opposes their will.
I guess that would be me. Wouldn't you?

I suppose I'm just having a bad day, or maybe some sort of cellphone induced psychosis, but what I do know is that any attempt to become more a spiritual person is now seen as crazy or at least not normal. If I buy into the 'Jesus industry' and financially support a church then I'm sure I'll be accepted, it happened for years when I was young. Unfortunately, that's exactly what made me an agnostic...well, that and being excommunicated for asking the wrong questions.
If you read this post and respond *properly*, Uncle Sam, Tony Blair and Stephen Harper will all put a nice shiny gold star beside your name.

Thanks for listening, I feel better now.

[Dan]

Amen to that brother!
Hallelujah 

In many ways i agree with most of what you're saying in regards to the fact that there are certain powerful people in the world who would like to rule such world - but it's never going to happen.

The main product of our 'smaller' globe has been more wars and no single dictator/politician is going to stop that.

Look at America - can't even hold Afghanistan & Iraq for christs sake! And there's hundreds of other, more powerful countries out there.

Nope, my prediction is: 2050, global war for dwindling fresh water supplies 

Though, thats not to say that certain countries couldn't go a bit Handmaid's Tale, but again, that's probably be the US as well - quick Sharon, get out while you can!

[doolols]

I have problems with things like the 2012 predictions. I like to consider myself open to a lot of free thinking, but the 2012 doomsday scenario seems to have no basis in fact, real life, or common sense. And when they say things like "the aliens / higher beings are communicating with us through crop circles" - why don't they go on telly? Why use peculiar geometric patterns as some sort of higher code? And why do some of them seem to align themselves exactly with the fairly arbitrary tractor tracks through the crops? The Kabbalah one here http://www.fusionanomaly.net/kabbalah.html seems to be a fine example of that.

Why are all UFO sightings fuzzy, out of focus shots of dinner plates spun up into the air? [urlhttp://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/1.htm#UFO%20flaps][/url]

And why are all alien abductions on people who can garner no credibility with the general population, and come across as nutters?

I'm sorry. Like Dan, my fears for the future are based more on real-life practicalities, like the problems of oil dependency, and what happens when it starts to run out, and the USA realise that they're too late to change the selfish attitudes of their nation? What hope does any state with its own oil supplies stands with the self-appointed 'Guardians of the Planet'?

[SharonBell]

 Ahoy there, Mates. I'm in SUNNY FLORIDA trying to recover from URI and asthma and I have no intention of taking over the planet. Just want to be clear on that.

Love,

Sharon

[Geoff_N]

I'm with Gerald on this one. I'm particularly sus about predictions of doom based on dates based on calendars, which themselves are the outpourings of arbitrary madness from medieval Popes.

On the other hand I am a little suspectible to predictions of the effects of planet alignments. I know real people who have genuine problems of mental states during full moons. The scientist in me knows that the gravitational force of all the other planets combined is miniscule, but there are synergistic effects of which we do not understand.

On the other hand, I am not convinced of Sharon's denial. I think she is in FL plotting away. We will have to call her Empress Sharon soon --  mark my words.

Geoff

[Dan]

Isn't it true that prior to indoor lighting women used to have their periods in time with the lunar cycle?
The gravitational pull from the moon controls the waves as well.
That's some pretty powerful stuff!

[Walker]

Most of the predictons about 2012 aren't a doomsday scenario, and all of the predictions from physicists,  quantum theorists, theologists, anthropologists, etc., are based on absolute fact. I don't believe anything based on a hunch, or a group of people who whip each other into a frenzy without a good base to stand on-- happens all the time. The mayans never said anything about the end of the world, hence the big mystery. They only said, and proved, that their long-count calendar runs out. That much is true, but they didn't expound on the outcome.
Gerald, I didn't say anything about aliens or little green men, that came from you, the science involved is absolute. Precession is as real as you and I (in other words, the stars and planets are NOT static). If you investigate it further then you will find what I'm saying is true-- we are headed for a monumental time, a sonular positioning that our earth hasn't seen in 26,000 years. If our tides are so heavily pulled just by our moon, then who can argue that a certain positioning of our entire solar system couldn't have dramatic effect.
I have to say that the typical response has always been with questions about why the 'aliens' don't make themselves known, or why abductees don't come forth. All you need to do is take a look at the way people resond to those who are different and have come forth. If you had some sort of bizzare experience, would you go on the news and tell everyone? I know I sure as hell woulnd't (Maybe the 'normal' abductees konw enough to keep their mouths shut?).
I've made no predictions for 2012, although I do admit to having some hope for that time, but my hope is that mankind will wake up and clean up before we kill ourselves and everyone else on the planet. It's far to easy for any of us to sit here and talk about how crazy the whole thing is, but think about this: We're just about the first 'civilization' to not record and write about the great events of this type. The mayans, the hopis, the aztecs, the egyptians, the tibetans, Nostrodamus, Edgar Cayse, the christian bible and many of the hindi systems have all reported these events in the past, and made predictions for the future. I'm not talking about space ships and aliens, I'm talking about measurable, quantifiable, astroNOMICAL events (as opposed to astrological).
As far as crop cirlces go, they happen more in Britain than anywhere else in the world, and not always in a field that has tractor-tire marks in it. I don't profess to know anything about them and I've never seen one. I've never seen a UFO or little green men either, except my brother just before he puked.
The universal clock is real and proven, and it's running out.
If you want to find something that challenges your mindset, then look beyond the obvious and delve deeper into it. Perhaps this thing has been polluted by the unproven ideas about aliens and crop circles, but look deeper into the science and you'll find that the series of events we're in the middle of has a lot more to do with pure science than science-fiction, and that includes the 'peak oil' period we're apparently in.
The problem I have with peak oil is that we, as the average consumer, don't have access to any unbiased science that proves it. We're forced to listen to the corporations who control it, and what better excuse to jack the price up than the threat of running out. Sure we've been warned about an energy crisis, since the 70's, at least, but the oil still flows and alternative energy is barely visible. Why is that? Why haven't the giant oil corporations positioned themselves to be a major player in the next global fuel, or energy? I have graver questions about that type of political behaviour than I do about absolute calculations from physicists.  
Some people just watch way too much tv.

[SharonBell]

Isn't it true that prior to indoor lighting women used to have their periods in time with the lunar cycle?

Dan--even with indoor lighting, women's periods are still in sync with the moon. In Reformadox Judaism (a blend of Judaism heavy and lite) there's even a women's ritual for following the lunar cycle to celebrate having a period. NO post-menopausals need apply.

Also, it's common knowledge that roommates and dormmates cycle together. Hamster females go into estrus together. So, just consider all those cute coeds big hamsters!

XOXO

Empress Sharon

[Geoff_N]

Walker, you have successfully shamed me into delving deeper into the 2012 matters.

I need a kick in the butt sometimes. My wife says every 30 mins.

Geoff

[doolols]

Yes, the pull of the moon, even over huge distances, affects the sea in a massive way, and it's no surprise that it may affect the delicate balance of the chemical and neurological make up of our bodies. The effect of the moon is fact. It affects gigantic masses of water (fact), so it may affect our moods etc (conjecture, although there is coinicidental evidence). However, I do have problems with a statement that a 'monumental time' is coming, based on predictions made a long time ago. And the statement that this is 'fact'.

Peak oil is as near to fact as you can get. There is enough evidence from geologists and economists. One of the best sites covering this is at http://www.wolfatthedoor.org.uk/, where the historical evidence is shown, with real graphs from real data, and the theories explained. From there, you can extrapolate 'what will happen', but for me, there is sufficient evidence.

I'm afraid a lot of the stuff on that site seems to me to be a bit 'cranky' (no disprespect). Does it say what's going to happen? Other than it will be a 'monumental time'? I'm interested to read stuff from 'non-mainstream' science, but I haven't seen anything yet to convince me that I need be concerned. Any other sites, Walker, which might help a layman like me?

[Walker]

Well, the one site, bblc.tv, is really just a starting point for serious exploration. These doctors and scientists are both mainstream and not, insofar as they are accredited and qualified specialists exploring a non-traditional field, but someone has to make the first step, which may be their thinking.
I have to agree that the site regarding pure 2012 conjecture is a little whacked, in places, and seems to want to dwell on the negetive. I don't believe that the world will end, necessarily, but if you go to bblc and watch the video by Walter Cruttenden (I may have spelled that wrong) under the 'science and consciousness' heading, then you get a more clear idea of how mainstream scientists are viewing this event in modern times. As far as it being monumental, I think that it's far more monumental than running out of oil. Humans have always survived and harnessed fuel and energy of some sort (we used the corpses of whales for >600 years, but oil for <150) and a lack of oil would only affect us for a generation or two at the most, then we'd be tooled and geared toward a new source. However, if a brown dwarf brushes us, we merge with an asteroid belt or we're influenced by several very severe gravitational pulls simultaneously, then I have to say that's far more than monumental. It would indeed be cataclysmic. Perhaps something like the great flood the bible refers to, but on a grander scale.
This is all based on fact (there's that word again). It's not a few cranks sitting at their computers making things up. This kind of information is being presented in an exponential fashion, based on serious science and calculations, as well as a small amount of calculated prediction.
Our planet is about to line up, in more than one way, with the center of our solar system (for the first time in 25,920 years). This is not new information. What's new is that our modern day scientists are just now catching up with the astral wisdom displayed by the so called 'primitive' civilizations, like the mayans. Anthropolgists have discovered that ancient civilizations were aware of the location of the center of our solar system, something we didn't (re)discover until recently. They don't know what's there, but they do know it emits unfathomable amounts of energy. Is it a black hole? Nobody knows, but it seems to be dumping more and more radiation into space all the time.
I really don't see what the problem is with believing this kind of data. We already know all about Schrodinger's cat and superpositioning, the double slit experiment proved it for all to see. A scientist in Japan has recently discovered that water reacts to human emotion. Sounds crazy, I know. I didn't believe it at first either, but he proved it many times over and now we can't deny that it brings startling questions to light about consciousness and awareness.
Anyway, the science involved in all of this is verifiable. It's not a guessing game. I know that geologists have told us about peak oil. My brother is a geologist, but what they are doling out is only information that is known to be fact, and the truth is that very little is known. Not only that, but these geologists, for the most part, work for the oil corporations in the exploration field. They'll never bite the hand that feeds, if they want to get paid. Once the spin doctors are finished with the findings, well...you know.
There's reason to believe that we're in line for another pole shift. It's been proven to have happened at least 5 times in the earths history. Not just a shift-- a complete reversal, so here's the thing-- we're all here right now. We're all in this together. If we bury our heads in the sand and start calling our free-thinking scientists 'cranks', then we get exactly what we deserve. Don't we? If we allow our minds to contemplate the unusual, the strange even, then maybe we'll begin to collectively prepare ourselves for more than just peak oil and the energy crisis. Maybe we'll learn more about our core values and beliefs-- our abilities as humans to overcome adversity and rise not just above the siuation, but through the situation into a better way. That's my only real hope.
Sorry for the long-winded reply-- this topic fascinates me.

[GrinReaper]

Regarding the world's ills -- check out my friends website -- some good articles there...

http://www.govinfo.bnet-newmedia.co.uk/

Regarding 2012 -- I'd say our measurement of time is an artificial construct. For example, many Australian Aboriginal tribes (I'm talking traditional here -- obviously many Aboriginal people have had to start incorporating the western concept of time since Europeans invaded 200+ years ago) have no concept of past, present and future.

[Ed]

   Interesting stuff   Funny how the website link is dead now.  Does that prove a conspiracy/mean they've been hacked/or is it a cynical ploy?  I doubt we would ever know for sure.

Likewise, if there was a global event in the near future and the governments of the (western) world knew about it in advance - I don't believe they would tell us about it.  They know that civilisation as we know it would break down and, consequently, nobody would survive.  There wouldn't be enough food and water for millions of survivors, so they'd concentrate on a more manageable number in the low thousands.  You can be sure they have a few well-stocked bunkers in various remote locations around the world, and the human race would live on through a handful of politicians, soldiers and various other hand picked personnel - possibly the Illuminati and their servants, while the rest of us perish in mindless confusion.

I sometimes wonder if there really is an Illuminati - when you consider that something like 95% of the world's wealth is held by 5% of the population, it makes you wonder.  There is such a thing as obscene wealth, and I doubt I'll ever get to the stage where I even understand how it happens.